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Money Talk With A 10-Year-Old

Zebunisso Alimova

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A 10-year-old walks into a school holiday podcast and accidentally delivers a masterclass in money basics. Aslan joins me for a funny, sharp chat that starts with what money can buy (yes, lollies make the list) and quickly turns into real financial literacy for kids and families: how to earn money young, why saving matters, and how to think about spending without blowing it all at once. If you’ve ever wondered how to teach kids about money without lectures, this is the kind of conversation that does the job naturally. 

We get practical with pocket money, simple side hustles like cleaning and lawn mowing, and setting savings goals for big-ticket wants like an electric scooter or a PS5. Then we take an unexpected turn into investing, with shares in familiar companies as a way to make “stocks” feel normal rather than scary. We also talk about earning through coaching at taekwondo, and how skills can become income even before you’re a teenager. 

From there, we zoom out to grown-up topics explained in kid terms: what a mortgage is, why banks charge interest rates, and why you often pay back more than you borrow. To wrap up, we compare free fun with paid fun during the school holidays, revisit a lemonade stand that nearly hit $100 in one day, and preview inflation with the clearest example possible: the same lolly packet costs more and sometimes comes with fewer lollies. If you care about personal finance, money habits, investing basics, mortgage basics, and inflation explained simply, you’ll get plenty to think about. 

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SPEAKER_00

Hello and welcome to the School Holiday Edition. Today I have another guest, and his name is Aslan Nemousel. Hello, Aslan. How are you?

SPEAKER_01

Good, how are you?

SPEAKER_00

Good. How are you related to me?

SPEAKER_01

I'm kind of your son right now.

SPEAKER_00

Kind of my son right now. Yeah. Okay. And how old are you?

SPEAKER_01

10. Turning 11 in July.

SPEAKER_00

Cool. And can you tell me what do you think we're going to talk about today?

SPEAKER_01

Money.

SPEAKER_00

You want to talk about money?

SPEAKER_01

Insurance.

What Money Buys And Why

SPEAKER_00

You want to talk about insurance? Yeah. Okay, cool. Let's start with money. What do we know about money?

SPEAKER_01

That you can buy a lot of stuff with it.

SPEAKER_00

What sort of stuff do you want to buy with money?

SPEAKER_01

A car, a house, lollies.

SPEAKER_00

A house. A car, a house, and lollies. Yeah. That's a lot of stuff you can buy with money. Okay. And Aslan, for those that are listening, and if you are 10 years old, what do you think they should know about money?

Earning Money At Age Ten

SPEAKER_01

How to make it, uh to what to do with it, and to save up.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So if you think that people should know how to make money, how should they make money if they're only 10 years old?

SPEAKER_01

Maybe do a business like uh like lawn do the lawn mowers or help your parents.

SPEAKER_00

And how are they gonna do that? If they don't have a lawn mower? How are they gonna do lawn mowing?

SPEAKER_01

Uh ask their mom or dad for it.

SPEAKER_00

For a lawn mower?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and ha and then like clean around the house.

Saving Rules And Spending Choices

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, okay. So if you clean around the house, you can get some pocket money. Yeah. And then what do you do with that money?

SPEAKER_01

You can spend it or save it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. And if you spend it all at once, then there'll be nothing to save.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so you should save around half of it and then spend other half.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So if you get ten dollars in a week or a day? A week.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And what are you gonna do with five dollars?

SPEAKER_01

I'll probably put in my bank for college or I'd save up to get like something good, like an electric scooter or something else.

SPEAKER_00

What are you gonna get?

SPEAKER_01

An electric scooter or like a TV or something. Or PS5.

SPEAKER_00

What are you gonna do with an electric scooter?

SPEAKER_01

What do you think? Ride around it.

SPEAKER_00

Ride around. Can you make money with the electric scooter?

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, you can rent it.

SPEAKER_00

You can rent it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, who are you gonna rent it to?

SPEAKER_01

My friends and you.

SPEAKER_00

Your friends and me? Yeah. Lovely. Okay, so if you were to save money, how where are you gonna put it again?

SPEAKER_01

Uh my bank.

SPEAKER_00

And where is your bank?

SPEAKER_01

In your phone.

Shares And Working At Taekwondo

SPEAKER_00

Your bank is in my phone. Fair enough. Okay, and you also know about shares, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. What sort of shares do you have?

SPEAKER_01

I have Tesla, I have flight the flight places, I have car places, my Coca-Cola, I have iPhone, I have Apple.

SPEAKER_00

How did you buy those shares?

SPEAKER_01

With money.

SPEAKER_00

And how did you make that money?

SPEAKER_01

By working.

SPEAKER_00

And where where else do you work? Do you want to tell our listeners where you work?

SPEAKER_01

I work at Taekwondo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. What do you do there?

SPEAKER_01

Coach.

SPEAKER_00

How long have you been doing that for?

SPEAKER_01

A year or two.

Mortgages And Interest Rates

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Are you liking it? Yeah. Yeah? What do you want to be when you grow up? You want to be a taekwondo coach?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, or the thing you do, which is like insur help people with insurances.

SPEAKER_00

When there's insurances and mortgages? Yeah. What's a what's a mortgage, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Like a house or like if you want to like buy a house, you go to Sebony Salymov because she's the best.

SPEAKER_00

A little promotion. Okay, so I help people buy houses by giving them a mortgage. Yeah. But what is a mortgage? Can you explain to someone that's 10 years old like you what is a mortgage?

SPEAKER_01

A mortgage is like a house, or like if you want to buy a house, that's basically like a mortgage. Yeah, I think so. That's it.

SPEAKER_00

It's a loan.

SPEAKER_01

A loan, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. Um so you can buy like a house and then you have to pay the bank if you don't have enough money, so you get a loan from the bank, and you have to pay back the loan even more. So if you get a million, if you let's say you get a million dollars for a m for a house, you have to pay no loan, let's say, for 1.2 million or 1.5 million over time.

SPEAKER_00

Why is that?

SPEAKER_01

Because that's how they make money.

SPEAKER_00

Mmm. That's because of the interest rate.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, interest rate.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Do you know about interest rates?

SPEAKER_01

It's nothing that goes up and never goes down.

School Holiday Fun Without Spending

SPEAKER_00

Oh. Okay. Okay. And do you know anything about the compounding interest? No. Okay. Maybe next episode when you come back, we can talk about compounding interest. Yeah. Yep. And did you enjoy your school holidays so far?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's been fun.

SPEAKER_00

It's been fun? Yeah. Okay. What did you do?

SPEAKER_01

We had a couple Easter hunts. We had chocolate eggs. We watched a few movies. What else did we do? We went out, we did talk and dough. We had dinner at some places. And we went to a few bakery bakeries.

SPEAKER_00

We had a mixture of free fun and paid fun. Yeah. Yeah. So it's important for you to remind people that having fun shouldn't cost a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. What would you suggest someone that's ten years old and wants to have fun and say that they're bored? What should they do?

SPEAKER_01

Uh go on the TV or phone. But if they're not allowed to do that, go maybe like a bike ride or play some sports.

SPEAKER_00

Read a book?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and read a book.

SPEAKER_00

What sort of books do you like?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Any?

SPEAKER_00

Do you like any books? Do you like reading?

SPEAKER_01

A little bit.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Do you like writing?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

You write some stories sometimes.

unknown

I never. You never do. Okay. You never do. Apparently.

SPEAKER_00

Aslan, do you want to tell our listeners about your lemonade business and how profitable that was one time?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I got some lemons from Lorraine and then I made some lemonade freshly squeezed, and then I sold it for a two dollars a cup, and then people bought it for me, and then I made lots of money and made almost a hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_00

In one day.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. What did you do with that money?

SPEAKER_01

I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00

Mmm.

SPEAKER_01

I gave some to Ami and Zara 10%, which is so I had$80 left. And then bought some ice cream and then I think I did some cheers.

SPEAKER_00

Mmm.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Are you gonna do any business activities this school holidays?

SPEAKER_01

I hope so.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. What else do you want to do?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Maybe sell some more lemonade, but no, it's cold, so winter.

SPEAKER_00

So maybe you should m sell people some hot tea with lemon and ginger and honey. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Alright, Aslan, did you have fun today with me talking on podcast? Um yeah. Are you gonna come back?

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

Inflation Explained With Lollies

SPEAKER_00

And next time when you come back, what do you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_01

Uh inflation.

SPEAKER_00

You wanna talk about inflation? Well, do you want to mention quickly what is inflation?

SPEAKER_01

It's when stuff go up. So let's say you bought a lolly packet for five dollars, and then when and then if it's 150% inflation, it will be seven dollars and fifty cents.

SPEAKER_00

For the same packet of lollies. Yeah. But you know, sometimes they're even cheekier and they actually put less lollies. They make the packets even smaller. Yeah. That also could be part of the inflation. Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you for so much for coming. It was lovely having you as a guest and see you soon again.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and buy a house before inflation goes up again. Bye.

unknown

Bye.